11/29/2022 – BuiltOnAir Live Podcast Full Show – S12-E11

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Welcome to the BuiltOnAir Podcast, the live show.  The BuiltOnAir Podcast is a live weekly show highlighting everything happening in the Airtable world.

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Alli Alosa – Hi there! I’m Alli 🙂 I’m a fine artist turned “techie” with a passion for organization and automation. I’m also proud to be a Community Leader in the Airtable forum, and a co-host of the BuiltOnAir podcast. My favorite part about being an Airtable consultant and developer is that I get to talk with people from all sorts of industries, and each project is an opportunity to learn how a business works.

Dan Fellars – I am the Founder of Openside, On2Air, and BuiltOnAir. I love automation and software. When not coding the next feature of On2Air, I love spending time with my wife and kids and golfing.

Show Segments

Round The Bases – 00:03:57 –

Meet the Creators – 00:28:06 –

Meet Alex Tellez.

Alex Tellez works with Sterling Administration, an independent health savings accounts administrator

Visit them online

Base Showcase – 00:37:10 –

We dive into a full working base that will This 2 part demo will showcase how to do both 1-way and 2-way chatbot messaging within Airtable with your customers.

Field Focus – 00:57:46 –

A deep dive into the Displaying commas in number fields Currency Fields – Using a currency field instead of number field allows for comma based formatting. 

Full Segment Details

Segment: Round The Bases

Start Time: 00:03:57

Roundup of what’s happening in the Airtable communities – Airtable, BuiltOnAir, Reddit, Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter.

Segment: Meet the Creators

Start Time: 00:28:06

Alex Tellez –

Meet Alex Tellez.

Alex Tellez works with Sterling Administration, an independent health savings accounts administrator

Visit them online

Segment: Base Showcase

Start Time: 00:37:10

Chatbot Messaging in Airtable

We dive into a full working base that will This 2 part demo will showcase how to do both 1-way and 2-way chatbot messaging within Airtable with your customers.

Segment: Field Focus

Start Time: 00:57:46

Learn about the Displaying commas in number fields – Using a currency field instead of number field allows for comma based formatting.

A deep dive into the Displaying commas in number fields Currency Fields – Using a currency field instead of number field allows for comma based formatting. 

Full Transcription

The full transcription for the show can be found here:

[00:01:43] All right, welcome back
[00:01:45] to BuiltOnAir podcast.
[00:01:47] Season 12,
[00:01:48] episode 11. Good to be back with you.
[00:01:51] We were off last week for the holidays and
[00:01:53] and excited to be back again,
[00:01:57] myself Dan Fellars
[00:01:59] and Alli Alosa
[00:02:01] regular home back
[00:02:04] actually be a
[00:02:06] familiar
[00:02:07] podcast regular Scott
[00:02:12] hey there,
[00:02:14] but the s out
[00:02:17] Alex, it's
[00:02:20] last name,
[00:02:22] have you on the show with us today.
[00:02:26] Nice to be here.
[00:02:29] I think I'm having
[00:02:30] good, I think I was having
[00:02:32] some freezing issues but I think
[00:02:34] I'm good now.
[00:02:34] Good to have everybody with us.
[00:02:36] We may have Kamille,
[00:02:37] Kamille joining with us midway.
[00:02:40] She's having internet issues at her home,
[00:02:42] so she may be joining us.
[00:02:44] But let's run through
[00:02:46] what we're gonna be talking
[00:02:47] about today. As always,
[00:02:49] it's a one hour show,
[00:02:51] talking about all things Airtable.
[00:02:52] We always start off with
[00:02:54] our Round the Bases,
[00:02:56] keep you up to date on
[00:02:57] everything
[00:02:58] news related and what's going on
[00:03:00] in the different communities
[00:03:02] around Airtable.
[00:03:02] Then we'll do a quick shout out to
[00:03:05] On2Air our primary sponsor.
[00:03:06] Then we're going to learn more
[00:03:08] about Alex and his story
[00:03:10] and how he came into the
[00:03:11] world of Airtable
[00:03:13] and then Alex and Scott
[00:03:15] are gonna show us some show,
[00:03:17] so I was thinking as text messaging,
[00:03:20] but it's really more chat messaging using
[00:03:23] Airtable for chat messaging
[00:03:25] and how that works in Airtable
[00:03:28] and a live chat messaging system.
[00:03:31] So we'll dive into
[00:03:33] the world of chat messaging
[00:03:35] and then a quick shout out to
[00:03:37] how to join our community
[00:03:38] if you're not already in
[00:03:39] it. And then finally Scott's
[00:03:42] gonna walk through
[00:03:43] using currency and number
[00:03:45] fields and show us a cool hack
[00:03:48] around fields.
[00:03:49] So with that we'll start with
[00:03:52] Round the Bases and
[00:03:55] not a whole lot going on.
[00:03:57] I actually only have
[00:03:58] two things to share both
[00:04:00] airtable specific,
[00:04:01] so I think it's been a little bit
[00:04:03] quiet maybe because of
[00:04:04] holidays, but the first thing is,
[00:04:07] is the community is moving.
[00:04:09] If you go to the community.airtable.com,
[00:04:12] you'll see it's in read only
[00:04:14] mode, so they're working right now
[00:04:17] it looks like on December 1st,
[00:04:19] which is a couple of days away,
[00:04:21] they will have a new site on a whole new
[00:04:23] platform.
[00:04:25] I know Scott, you've got
[00:04:27] opinions on this, what do you think?
[00:04:30] I was just I don't know,
[00:04:32] I really love the discourse
[00:04:34] community forum. I love
[00:04:35] how user friendly the software is,
[00:04:37] how inviting it is, they've got those cool
[00:04:39] leaderboards,
[00:04:40] it's really easy to follow threads and
[00:04:43] and, you know,
[00:04:44] all the preferences. So
[00:04:45] I don't know,
[00:04:46] I don't know if the new community can beat
[00:04:49] everything that we already have.
[00:04:50] I don't know,
[00:04:51] I guess we're gonna find out.
[00:04:54] Yeah. What do you think Alli?
[00:04:56] Interesting I mean,
[00:04:58] it'll be I have no idea
[00:05:00] what the new platform is,
[00:05:01] but I do agree,
[00:05:03] I've really loved
[00:05:04] discourse for the time
[00:05:06] it's been around.
[00:05:07] So, I mean, looking forward
[00:05:09] to seeing what the new community
[00:05:11] looks like.
[00:05:15] Yeah, Kuovonne did us all a favor,
[00:05:17] and she took snapshots of all the leaders,
[00:05:19] all of the,
[00:05:22] Kuovonne
[00:05:24] thank you, Kuovonne.
[00:05:27] To hold on to, yep.
[00:05:30] A streak of consecutive days posting
[00:05:35] 365 at least visiting. And so these
[00:05:41] couple of days she's not able to post,
[00:05:43] so that's broken her streak and I don't
[00:05:45] know what she's doing
[00:05:46] with all her free time.
[00:05:49] Kuovonne, if you're watching,
[00:05:50] let us know
[00:05:51] what you're doing with all your free
[00:05:52] time these couple days.
[00:05:57] And Scott as well,
[00:05:58] I think you're the top poster,
[00:06:01] is that right?
[00:06:02] Thank you. Yeah.
[00:06:05] I was number one and Kuovonne
[00:06:07] was number two.
[00:06:08] Here it is, all time. Yeah,
[00:06:11] Scott, Kuovonne, Justin, Bill, Kamille
[00:06:13] Jeremy. So Jeremy,
[00:06:14] we gotta get Jeremy on the show,
[00:06:17] he's the top one we haven't
[00:06:18] gotten on the show yet.
[00:06:20] That's crazy that Van Hall,
[00:06:22] who probably hasn't posted in two years,
[00:06:25] is still in the leaderboard
[00:06:26] that shows how much
[00:06:28] he posted at one point.
[00:06:30] It's amazing, interesting. So
[00:06:33] yeah, we'll see.
[00:06:34] So in a couple of days
[00:06:35] it will be a new platform.
[00:06:37] Hopefully, hopefully all your clout
[00:06:39] carries over and
[00:06:40] and you don't have to start
[00:06:42] over from scratch.
[00:06:45] Totally. They did say that all
[00:06:47] the badges and leaderboards
[00:06:49] stats would carry
[00:06:50] over in their email,
[00:06:51] I'm interested to see how it looks,
[00:06:54] but they did say that,
[00:06:55] I think very cool.
[00:06:57] Yeah, I think the new platform
[00:07:00] is called khoros
[00:07:01] or something like that is that
[00:07:06] K H O R O S Bill French found
[00:07:08] some interesting information on that.
[00:07:12] It's mostly mostly we don't know
[00:07:15] if it's conspiracy, conjecture, or fact,
[00:07:17] but khoros's parent company
[00:07:20] is one of the primary
[00:07:22] investors in Airtable.
[00:07:24] Yeah, the relation between the khoros
[00:07:28] community software and Airtable.
[00:07:31] So that may be the reason for the move.
[00:07:35] Could be could be we'll see.
[00:07:38] All right, well the only other
[00:07:41] big thing this is a little bit old.
[00:07:43] We weren't on last week to
[00:07:46] to talk about it, but Airtable made a big
[00:07:49] announcement new A P I S
[00:07:52] and new endpoints,
[00:07:54] lots of new stuff on the
[00:07:57] developer front was announced.
[00:07:59] It's still in beta
[00:08:01] but let's go through these.
[00:08:03] So they're they're using
[00:08:05] personal access tokens,
[00:08:07] so that's basically the ability
[00:08:10] to create multiple
[00:08:11] api keys that you could
[00:08:13] use on more granular control
[00:08:15] over things although that there is some
[00:08:19] confusion as to whether you could
[00:08:22] use those in place of your api keys.
[00:08:24] Somewhere in the documentation,
[00:08:26] it says that you shouldn't
[00:08:27] use those with third
[00:08:28] party. That's more for
[00:08:29] your internal use only.
[00:08:31] But api key should
[00:08:33] are being replaced by OAuth
[00:08:36] so OAuth is in beta
[00:08:38] and so that is a big change.
[00:08:42] The big thing about OAuth
[00:08:44] it is you can actually determine
[00:08:47] which bases that you want
[00:08:50] to give access to the
[00:08:52] third party tools that
[00:08:54] you're giving access to.
[00:08:56] So and you can give access to
[00:08:59] just read only
[00:09:01] or write or updating fields,
[00:09:03] things like that.
[00:09:04] So you have more granular
[00:09:06] control over who you're giving
[00:09:07] permissions to your data.
[00:09:09] So that is pretty cool.
[00:09:11] You can also set things up
[00:09:13] at the workspace level
[00:09:15] so you can give access to like
[00:09:17] just one workspace and any
[00:09:19] base current or future
[00:09:21] that's in that workspace
[00:09:23] or everything overall.
[00:09:24] So
[00:09:25] that will be big
[00:09:29] what else?
[00:09:30] New api endpoints.
[00:09:32] So they're adding more information.
[00:09:35] New enterprise admin features.
[00:09:39] So I don't know if anybody's
[00:09:42] dove too much into this.
[00:09:44] Any other commentary?
[00:09:46] The comments api is exciting.
[00:09:49] I know more and more
[00:09:51] clients that are into
[00:09:53] the comment feature
[00:09:54] especially since they surfaced
[00:09:56] that element in the
[00:09:56] interfaces. And I love the updates
[00:09:59] they've made recently that you know,
[00:10:01] if you get a notification in your email,
[00:10:03] it says so and so mentioned you in this
[00:10:05] interface instead of bringing you
[00:10:07] into the base, it brings you right to the
[00:10:09] place where the person actually
[00:10:11] wrote the comment
[00:10:12] which is hugely beneficial.
[00:10:13] But the api I mean,
[00:10:15] something actually a client
[00:10:17] pointed out to me
[00:10:19] the other day is that
[00:10:20] when you put the grid,
[00:10:22] a grid view in an interface at one
[00:10:24] point or another, they showed the
[00:10:26] little numbers next to the each row to say
[00:10:28] this row has two comments.
[00:10:30] This row has three or whatever.
[00:10:32] Those those numbers
[00:10:33] are now gone.
[00:10:34] So this comments and I get
[00:10:36] I get why, I mean I think it makes
[00:10:38] sense for security purposes. But
[00:10:40] now with this api
[00:10:42] you could at least, you know,
[00:10:43] if a comment exists,
[00:10:44] you could have a little flag
[00:10:46] on that record saying
[00:10:47] there are comments on this so
[00:10:49] you don't have to expand
[00:10:50] everything to look for it
[00:10:52] if that makes sense.
[00:10:53] Yeah, that's cool.
[00:10:55] That's interesting. Yeah,
[00:10:57] I've played a ton
[00:10:59] with the web hooks and the new
[00:11:01] personal access tokens
[00:11:02] and very similar to what
[00:11:03] you were saying with the OAuth
[00:11:04] the new personal access tokens
[00:11:06] are so cool
[00:11:06] because you can choose specifically
[00:11:08] which bases you want access to
[00:11:10] and with the and you can specify
[00:11:13] what actual permissions you want,
[00:11:15] like whether it's reading
[00:11:17] or writing
[00:11:18] or there's a couple other things as well.
[00:11:20] You know, for the web hooks,
[00:11:22] whether you're monitoring
[00:11:23] table changes or data
[00:11:24] changes. So it's very, very powerful.
[00:11:29] They don't even list web hooks
[00:11:31] in this one. But yeah,
[00:11:32] web hooks is part of this
[00:11:33] release,
[00:11:35] interesting.
[00:11:36] Yeah. One thing that's kind of interesting
[00:11:39] if you can get into the technical
[00:11:40] weeds of web hooks
[00:11:41] if you don't get overwhelmed
[00:11:43] by the technical nature because
[00:11:44] there's no there's no front end to it.
[00:11:47] You have to get into it yourself,
[00:11:49] you know, through other means
[00:11:52] if you as a user of Airtable
[00:11:54] are not, you
[00:11:55] know, put off by the technical elements
[00:11:58] the web hooks are a very interesting
[00:12:00] way to work around the limitations
[00:12:02] of Airtable's automation runs.
[00:12:05] So because there's no limitation
[00:12:08] to how many times
[00:12:10] you can trigger a web hook,
[00:12:12] so it's
[00:12:14] it's almost identical to the
[00:12:16] automation with a lot more power,
[00:12:18] but it has that little loophole
[00:12:20] where you can work around
[00:12:21] the automation runs.
[00:12:22] Yeah, it also tells you
[00:12:24] when records are deleted,
[00:12:26] which there's no other way to
[00:12:29] do that really.
[00:12:30] So that's a powerful addition.
[00:12:33] That is correct.
[00:12:34] That is correct.
[00:12:35] Of course, now that I've mentioned
[00:12:36] the loophole on this podcast,
[00:12:37] they're gonna close that loophole.
[00:12:40] I think that's the whole point
[00:12:42] of web hooks.
[00:12:43] So I doubt that they would close
[00:12:45] that.
[00:12:47] But the other thing to mention
[00:12:49] is there's now a new web
[00:12:51] web documentation for
[00:12:52] all their api stuff.
[00:12:54] So this is pretty nice.
[00:12:57] I know you gave them some kudos
[00:12:59] for this new layout.
[00:13:04] Yeah, so you can break out
[00:13:06] so you can see everything.
[00:13:08] And and the meta api is also part of this.
[00:13:11] So now that that's publicly
[00:13:13] that used to be required
[00:13:15] additional approval
[00:13:17] from Airtable to get that.
[00:13:20] And so that and they they
[00:13:22] actually added more to the meta api
[00:13:24] that wasn't there before.
[00:13:25] So now you can actually create
[00:13:27] a base via the api
[00:13:29] before you could just do
[00:13:30] tables and
[00:13:32] fields. There are some limits.
[00:13:34] Some fields you still can't do,
[00:13:37] especially formula fields.
[00:13:39] That's like the one big thing
[00:13:41] with the meta api once
[00:13:42] you can do a full base replication,
[00:13:45] that's a game changer.
[00:13:49] But nothing around,
[00:13:51] there's no api for interfaces
[00:13:54] or automations those are
[00:13:56] those are two api's
[00:13:58] that would be cool
[00:13:59] if they ever add that functionality
[00:14:01] to be able to create interfaces
[00:14:03] dynamically through an api,
[00:14:05] that would be crazy
[00:14:06] that
[00:14:07] would be incredible.
[00:14:09] Yeah I was very very surprised
[00:14:10] to see that they added the
[00:14:12] create a base feature
[00:14:13] which I think we have just been
[00:14:15] talking in the forums just
[00:14:16] like two weeks prior
[00:14:17] when we were telling people
[00:14:19] that that's not a part of the api
[00:14:20] then boom it was a surprise
[00:14:22] and you're right
[00:14:23] and you cannot create any formula fields
[00:14:25] or anything that's
[00:14:26] like a formula like field
[00:14:28] like roll up fields for example,
[00:14:30] you can't create.
[00:14:32] Right, right.
[00:14:35] Yeah. So yeah that that's still missing.
[00:14:39] But yeah, once, I mean this gets you
[00:14:42] a whole lot closer to you know,
[00:14:45] being able to build
[00:14:47] true apps in Airtable and
[00:14:50] I wonder it's a matter of time
[00:14:52] before this gets abused of people creating
[00:14:54] millions of bases
[00:14:55] because they don't charge
[00:14:57] you per base. Right?
[00:14:58] So you could you could literally
[00:15:00] generate a million bases.
[00:15:04] I don't know if there is
[00:15:05] some kind of cut off
[00:15:07] but it says unlimited on the
[00:15:08] pricing page
[00:15:10] who's up for the challenge
[00:15:12] to see if they really mean unlimited?
[00:15:15] I'll nominate bill.
[00:15:17] I bet bill is working on that
[00:15:19] Bill or Kuovonne, maybe.
[00:15:21] Yeah, Kuovonne, Kuovonne
[00:15:24] yeah, I will say
[00:15:26] Kuovonne's commenting in here.
[00:15:28] She has used personal tokens
[00:15:30] as a substitute for
[00:15:31] an api key. Yeah,
[00:15:33] I know it's possible,
[00:15:34] but their documentation says they don't
[00:15:37] want you to or they don't prefer you do.
[00:15:40] She also mentions web hooks give
[00:15:42] you previous values,
[00:15:44] which is awesome.
[00:15:45] So that is really cool as well.
[00:15:47] Yeah, that's huge. That's huge.
[00:15:52] Previous to that,
[00:15:53] you need to do some crazy workarounds
[00:15:56] to like save the old
[00:15:57] value and compare it to the new one. And
[00:16:00] that's the tricky part about web hooks
[00:16:03] is their only live for seven days.
[00:16:05] You have to refresh it
[00:16:07] within seven days, otherwise it just dies.
[00:16:10] And I don't know if that's just
[00:16:12] for the beta or if that's the plan to be
[00:16:14] when it rolls out or not.
[00:16:16] I'm not sure. I think Yeah,
[00:16:18] I was talking with Sean
[00:16:19] keenan about that.
[00:16:20] He's the he's one of the guys
[00:16:22] that was working on the api
[00:16:23] stuff and he made it seem to me
[00:16:25] that that would be a
[00:16:26] permanent feature of it
[00:16:27] that they would expire after seven days.
[00:16:30] But what you can do is,
[00:16:31] you can just like set,
[00:16:32] you know, whatever tool you're using
[00:16:34] to access those web
[00:16:35] hooks. You know,
[00:16:36] whether it's javascript or,
[00:16:38] you know, make.com or whatever.
[00:16:39] You can just set like a daily repeating
[00:16:42] automation that just does a ping
[00:16:45] to refresh it like once a day.
[00:16:47] I mean at most you have to do
[00:16:49] at the least you'd have
[00:16:50] to do it once a week.
[00:16:51] But on the safe side you may want
[00:16:53] to just refresh it once once a day,
[00:16:55] which is kind of silly.
[00:16:56] If they've got all these people
[00:16:58] pinging them to refresh
[00:17:00] it, they should just have keep
[00:17:02] alive setting when you create it,
[00:17:04] you know, and that will save them
[00:17:07] from getting all these refresh pings.
[00:17:10] That's true. I wonder if they're doing it
[00:17:12] because when you do call the web hook,
[00:17:14] it actually gives you all the information
[00:17:17] historically through time that that
[00:17:19] web hook has ever received.
[00:17:21] And and you can and each
[00:17:23] each call is labeled by a cursor number.
[00:17:25] So you can say, I only want the
[00:17:28] information from cursor number 17 onwards.
[00:17:32] And so maybe they're expiring them
[00:17:34] so they don't run out of disk space
[00:17:36] eventually because the web hooks,
[00:17:38] it's not like the web hooks
[00:17:40] just send you the
[00:17:40] information
[00:17:41] and then delete that information.
[00:17:43] That information is permanently
[00:17:45] stored in that
[00:17:45] web hook.
[00:17:46] So maybe they're doing that because
[00:17:49] they were worried about too much
[00:17:51] storage taking place, I don't know. Yeah,
[00:17:56] interesting. So yeah,
[00:17:58] it's, it'll be
[00:17:59] it'll be interesting to see what this
[00:18:02] does to open up, you know, new innovation.
[00:18:06] I've I know I've been thinking of
[00:18:08] ways to take our applications
[00:18:10] actually talk a little bit
[00:18:12] about that in the
[00:18:13] On2Air demo
[00:18:14] but it definitely opens up Airtable
[00:18:17] to be more of a true platform,
[00:18:19] all of these new functionalities.
[00:18:22] So we'll see what
[00:18:24] what creators do with it,
[00:18:26] any other final comments?
[00:18:28] Any anything I've missed
[00:18:31] on updates from the communities?
[00:18:34] I think in relation to this,
[00:18:36] I'm not sure if it was
[00:18:39] released prior to it or
[00:18:40] along with all of this
[00:18:42] and I know it's an enterprise only
[00:18:44] feature but there's
[00:18:45] now you can have like an access
[00:18:47] only account.
[00:18:48] I haven't been able to find it
[00:18:50] but it's
[00:18:52] and I have not taken advantage
[00:18:54] of it yet
[00:18:55] but I can see where it would be useful
[00:18:57] to like set up an account that says,
[00:18:59] okay this is gonna be my
[00:19:01] access account for
[00:19:02] my Zapier api and so
[00:19:04] you don't have to worry about
[00:19:06] like having that api
[00:19:07] key be associated with a person
[00:19:10] that may leave
[00:19:11] and then you are left with a
[00:19:12] bunch of broken zaps
[00:19:14] that you need to reconnect.
[00:19:17] I think I think they called it
[00:19:19] an access only account.
[00:19:20] I'm not sure I had the
[00:19:21] documentation up the other day
[00:19:23] but I'll dig around for it and find it.
[00:19:26] Well that's interesting.
[00:19:27] I didn't know about that.
[00:19:28] That would be extremely
[00:19:29] helpful. Absolutely.
[00:19:31] Are they Service, service accounts? Yes.
[00:19:34] Service account. That's what it's called.
[00:19:36] Yeah. I don't
[00:19:38] know if they're in here.
[00:19:43] Let me see. I've got it somewhere.
[00:19:48] But yeah, I think that
[00:19:49] would be super, super useful
[00:19:51] for sure.
[00:19:53] So they've got the
[00:19:56] personal access tokens.
[00:19:59] Yeah, it says service for enterprise
[00:20:02] for enterprise admin, service accounts set
[00:20:04] up service accounts as non user
[00:20:06] accounts for integrations and other uses.
[00:20:09] But I that was copied and pasted
[00:20:11] into my slack somewhere
[00:20:13] and I'm not sure where
[00:20:14] it was copied and pasted.
[00:20:16] Is that something that was
[00:20:18] that's in beta? That you're using?
[00:20:20] I'm not using it yet.
[00:20:21] It was something that
[00:20:23] one of my clients like pointed out
[00:20:24] to me and was like,
[00:20:26] we should look at this
[00:20:27] and I was like, yeah we should.
[00:20:29] Haven't yet.
[00:20:31] Yeah, no, that would
[00:20:33] definitely be helpful,
[00:20:36] awesome. So yeah, this
[00:20:38] there's other limitations
[00:20:40] like with web hooks,
[00:20:42] it's like
[00:20:44] six web hooks per base or something.
[00:20:49] Pretty low limit
[00:20:50] and that might be just during beta.
[00:20:53] Yeah, no, they're actually,
[00:20:55] I think they're sticking with the limit.
[00:20:57] I asked about that as well and I think
[00:20:58] the current limit is 10.
[00:21:03] So that that's kind of a problem.
[00:21:05] I mean I mean it's only a problem
[00:21:07] if you're if
[00:21:08] you're gonna be, if you plan
[00:21:10] on being a heavy web hook user
[00:21:11] then then it could
[00:21:12] be a problem for you.
[00:21:13] It's not a problem for me.
[00:21:15] But it could be for
[00:21:16] somebody
[00:21:20] Oh,
[00:21:21] Kuovonne said in the chat that
[00:21:23] there is a limit of 500 bases
[00:21:25] per workspace.
[00:21:27] Interesting.
[00:21:32] So it's not unlimited, like they state.
[00:21:37] I don't know, is there anywhere
[00:21:39] that counts how many bases you have?
[00:21:41] Like under your storage?
[00:21:43] Does it tell you the number of bases?
[00:21:44] Because I don't even know,
[00:21:46] I've never seen that. I don't know.
[00:21:48] I would love to know.
[00:21:49] I'd love to,
[00:21:50] let's start a thread about how
[00:21:51] many bases people have
[00:21:54] in their workspaces, I want to know.
[00:21:58] This is interesting. I don't think I
[00:22:00] noticed this, web hooks created with user
[00:22:03] api keys will not expire,
[00:22:05] but are restricted usage
[00:22:07] on enterprise plan users.
[00:22:09] Oh, and we'll be deprecating.
[00:22:11] Oh, so that's like the
[00:22:14] old api keys. Gotcha.
[00:22:18] Yeah, I was I did the same
[00:22:19] thing you did.
[00:22:20] I was so excited by that last sentence
[00:22:22] and then I got to the part.
[00:22:23] Oh, and they'll be deprecated.
[00:22:24] So we better not go down the path.
[00:22:26] So I think that's just yeah,
[00:22:28] because legacy web hooks
[00:22:29] was available on the enterprise plan.
[00:22:31] So they're basically saying
[00:22:33] like those will still work
[00:22:35] for the time being.
[00:22:38] Yeah, more from Kuovonne,
[00:22:39] expiring web hooks makes sense
[00:22:41] for web hooks that
[00:22:42] people create to try
[00:22:44] and then never actually use
[00:22:46] definitely true.
[00:22:50] so yeah, good stuff coming.
[00:22:52] I think this will,
[00:22:53] we'll see lots of innovation.
[00:22:55] And excited for that. So
[00:22:57] that kind of concludes
[00:22:59] what's going what's new,
[00:23:01] relatively quiet, but
[00:23:02] that was definitely a big update
[00:23:05] that you know we'll
[00:23:06] see how long they haven't said
[00:23:08] how long the beta is.
[00:23:09] Have they have they set a
[00:23:10] date when it's out of beta?
[00:23:13] I don't think so.
[00:23:14] Yeah so maybe a few months before
[00:23:17] that goes out
[00:23:19] and one more from Kuovonne
[00:23:21] enterprise service account's
[00:23:22] an account that is not
[00:23:23] tied to a user. It's also free
[00:23:26] free if you're on enterprise.
[00:23:29] All right, very good.
[00:23:32] Let's move on to
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[00:23:49] Today I want to talk about our backups app
[00:23:53] and maybe pull the curtain back
[00:23:55] a little bit of you know some behind the
[00:23:59] scenes of running a business
[00:24:00] that's dependent on Airtable
[00:24:02] and some of the
[00:24:03] joys of what you get to deal with.
[00:24:06] So as most people know so we have a
[00:24:09] backups application that helps you
[00:24:11] back up all your data and it will store it
[00:24:13] into box dropbox and google drive
[00:24:16] and it'll back up your data and your
[00:24:20] attachments.
[00:24:21] So as you know we've talked
[00:24:23] a lot about changes
[00:24:24] that Airtable made with
[00:24:26] expiring URLs for attachments
[00:24:29] and so we knew this was coming.
[00:24:32] We we did some prep work
[00:24:33] to try to prepare for it.
[00:24:35] But Airtable didn't really
[00:24:37] give us like you couldn't beta
[00:24:39] like sign up for it
[00:24:41] and so we really didn't know
[00:24:43] what the behavior was going to be
[00:24:46] until it actually the switch was flipped
[00:24:48] and so we thought we would
[00:24:50] be in a pretty good case
[00:24:52] or a situation to to handle
[00:24:53] it. Unfortunately that was not the case.
[00:24:56] After a couple of weeks of kind of
[00:24:57] reviewing what the new behavior
[00:25:00] was with with expiring
[00:25:01] URLs we found
[00:25:03] that we were not fully prepared for
[00:25:06] for that change and it definitely had an
[00:25:09] impact on how we backed up
[00:25:11] especially the attachments
[00:25:13] and really just how they worked
[00:25:15] in conjunction with the destinations.
[00:25:18] Dropbox in particular had some
[00:25:21] just odd behavior that
[00:25:23] that we didn't foresee.
[00:25:25] So actually just at the beginning of this
[00:25:29] this podcast we sent out an email to
[00:25:31] anybody that was impacted.
[00:25:33] We did have some delays
[00:25:35] in backing up our
[00:25:37] attachments and we had to
[00:25:39] rework our code to
[00:25:40] to better support the new expiring URLs
[00:25:43] and because of that we have a
[00:25:45] huge backlog of attachments that
[00:25:47] that's still that we're actually retrying.
[00:25:50] We don't know for certain
[00:25:51] how many actually got backed up
[00:25:53] so we decided to
[00:25:54] just re back up all of the attachments
[00:25:57] since the change which means we have
[00:26:00] weeks worth of of attachments
[00:26:02] that need to be backed up
[00:26:04] and it takes quite a
[00:26:05] long time for that.
[00:26:06] So if you're a customer
[00:26:08] of our backups I apologize for
[00:26:10] the inconvenience but we're working on it
[00:26:13] and it'll take a few days for the
[00:26:15] backlog to clear out
[00:26:17] and we'll get everything backed up
[00:26:19] and stored and we're now
[00:26:21] prepared for the future with
[00:26:24] with this new approach and dealing with it
[00:26:27] when those you URLs expire.
[00:26:30] And but the good thing about it and
[00:26:33] in conjunction with all these new changes
[00:26:35] the Airtable is doing
[00:26:37] we're working on the next iteration
[00:26:40] of backups to be
[00:26:42] able to back up your comments
[00:26:44] with your data.
[00:26:45] So that's a new feature we're
[00:26:47] working on.
[00:26:48] It will probably be Q one of next year.
[00:26:52] Maybe Q two.
[00:26:53] Were also we were also pretty much
[00:26:56] rewriting our our backup
[00:26:58] processes to be much
[00:27:00] more scalable.
[00:27:01] So that's in the works
[00:27:03] backing up all your schema data
[00:27:07] which before
[00:27:08] you could do just through
[00:27:09] our schema apps
[00:27:10] were now incorporating that into the
[00:27:12] backup. So you'll be able to
[00:27:14] back up your schema information
[00:27:17] as well as far
[00:27:17] as all your field data and table data.
[00:27:21] So that will all be available on certain
[00:27:24] tiers of the backup plan. And
[00:27:29] I think those are the main ones.
[00:27:31] You're back up your comments your meta.
[00:27:34] So lots of changes coming
[00:27:36] reworking to to support the new URLs
[00:27:39] and things like that so
[00:27:41] I just wanted to share that
[00:27:43] with any of our
[00:27:44] customers that may be listening
[00:27:46] but you'll get an email with full
[00:27:48] explanation of what's going on
[00:27:50] and how it impacts you.
[00:27:51] So you should have
[00:27:52] already received that
[00:27:54] during the show.
[00:27:56] So with that we'll move on
[00:27:59] to our spotlight on Alex.
[00:28:02] Alex. Welcome to the show.
[00:28:05] Why don't you tell us a
[00:28:07] little bit about yourself, your
[00:28:10] your background your business. Then
[00:28:12] I'd love to just kind of turn it
[00:28:14] over you but things
[00:28:15] I'd love to learn about is
[00:28:16] your story, how you found Airtable.
[00:28:19] Maybe what you were trying what you
[00:28:22] were using before Airtable
[00:28:24] to accomplish your business goals
[00:28:27] and then really how Airtable
[00:28:29] has changed your business? So with that,
[00:28:32] don't we
[00:28:35] yeah you're in here,
[00:28:39] tell us Alex. Well thanks Dan,
[00:28:41] thanks for having me on the show.
[00:28:43] My name is Alex Tellez.
[00:28:44] I have been a data scientist now for
[00:28:49] 13 years which makes me like
[00:28:51] like an old timer
[00:28:53] in my field at the rate that
[00:28:54] like General Assembly graduates
[00:28:56] data scientists is
[00:28:57] you know it's pretty pretty
[00:28:58] common now.
[00:29:01] I live and work in the Bay Area.
[00:29:03] And so I've been fortunate
[00:29:05] to work on like a
[00:29:06] lot of really interesting projects.
[00:29:08] I've done some of my more funny ones,
[00:29:11] I've worked in online dating.
[00:29:13] News, advertising, banking,
[00:29:16] healthcare. Two of my favorite
[00:29:18] data science projects I've done that I
[00:29:20] enjoyed
[00:29:21] was in NFL football so right
[00:29:26] Bill brady and tom Belichick,
[00:29:28] they're the top longest standing.
[00:29:30] They were you know quarterback
[00:29:33] and coach duo. And we tried to build an
[00:29:36] algorithm that could predict run
[00:29:38] or pass depending on the down distance,
[00:29:40] the game, the weather etcetera etcetera.
[00:29:42] And it turns out that Bill Belichick
[00:29:46] is like a it's like a 55 45
[00:29:48] so past 55% run
[00:29:49] 45
[00:29:50] we were able to get them down
[00:29:52] to around 77%
[00:29:53] using something called sequencing.
[00:29:55] So this is when an algorithm takes
[00:29:58] previous plays and kind of
[00:30:00] ties them up as a
[00:30:00] sequence but it remembers
[00:30:02] what happened in the previous place.
[00:30:04] So as an example,
[00:30:06] you know if I said a b c d
[00:30:08] and said what are the subsequent
[00:30:10] words to that?
[00:30:11] You would obviously know what
[00:30:12] that is because you're taking the sequence
[00:30:14] and you're applying it forward same
[00:30:16] thing that we do here.
[00:30:17] The other one that I did
[00:30:20] that was really fun was a
[00:30:21] while ago, I was a bit of a wine buff
[00:30:24] and we built an algorithm to predict
[00:30:27] vintage years of bordeaux wine
[00:30:29] so that if you wanted to
[00:30:31] buy the wine while it
[00:30:32] was in a barrel
[00:30:33] kind of like a future of a stock,
[00:30:36] you could buy it and then we would predict
[00:30:38] whether or not the wine's value
[00:30:39] would go up or down based on certain
[00:30:41] geographical features.
[00:30:43] And so my whole life
[00:30:44] has basically been in data science
[00:30:45] and then algorithms.
[00:30:47] I've been really lucky to
[00:30:49] I've written a book about it,
[00:30:50] I've taught courses on it
[00:30:52] and so it's been it's been
[00:30:54] quite a journey of data
[00:30:55] science if you will.
[00:30:57] But one thing that was
[00:30:58] I never really got into there was
[00:31:00] a pretty clear
[00:31:02] division of labor if you will,
[00:31:04] was kind of more of the
[00:31:06] data engineering side
[00:31:07] and also the data storage side.
[00:31:09] And so typically in a typical
[00:31:10] workflow of data
[00:31:11] science right?
[00:31:12] You have data engineers,
[00:31:14] you have sequel guys,
[00:31:15] you have you know data warehouse people,
[00:31:18] devops etcetera and they're storing
[00:31:20] this data. And then as a data scientist
[00:31:22] you are asking for data so you're
[00:31:23] consuming it and then you're
[00:31:25] doing something with it.
[00:31:27] And why this was so interesting
[00:31:29] like about Airtable was for the first time
[00:31:33] I had to think about I guess
[00:31:36] taking off my data science hat
[00:31:38] and turning on my
[00:31:39] data engineering and
[00:31:41] kind of like data storage hat.
[00:31:43] And so not having ever done
[00:31:44] this profession in my life,
[00:31:46] not only do I have a huge
[00:31:47] respect for devops people
[00:31:48] and D. B. A. S. Etcetera but
[00:31:50] I was able to discover Airtable
[00:31:53] and so you know
[00:31:54] fast forward
[00:31:55] to kind of present day now
[00:31:57] and I work for a company called sterling
[00:32:00] managed services
[00:32:02] and what we do is
[00:32:03] we try to build applications in the
[00:32:06] healthcare world
[00:32:08] in particular for elderly people.
[00:32:10] And so given that this is
[00:32:12] a very growing population here in America,
[00:32:15] the idea is how can we
[00:32:18] better serve our elderly
[00:32:20] by kind of caring for them
[00:32:23] better and trying to use data.
[00:32:25] And obviously that's the
[00:32:26] data science comes in to
[00:32:27] kind of get out better ways
[00:32:30] to care for elderly people.
[00:32:32] And doing so that's
[00:32:34] kind of when I had to research
[00:32:35] this question of like,
[00:32:37] well where do we store
[00:32:37] this data? And obviously
[00:32:39] there's a ton of like data storage
[00:32:41] solutions out there.
[00:32:43] Like if we,
[00:32:44] you know, we could hack
[00:32:45] like I'm sure we could hack
[00:32:46] like a google sheets,
[00:32:47] kind of like multi tab thing
[00:32:48] together and I'm sure people do,
[00:32:50] but it was only kind of researching
[00:32:53] and doing my own independent
[00:32:55] research when I
[00:32:56] said, you know what, like,
[00:32:57] I probably don't have the acumen
[00:32:59] and wherewithal to
[00:33:00] get like an entire oracle dB like
[00:33:02] in front of me and like
[00:33:04] try and do this as a
[00:33:05] data scientist. So I thought what
[00:33:07] was the most intuitive thing
[00:33:08] that could get me
[00:33:09] up and running at least for a prototype.
[00:33:12] And that's when I found Airtable
[00:33:14] and that's kind of when
[00:33:16] I had like this wow
[00:33:17] moment where I was like,
[00:33:18] so you're saying that
[00:33:20] I can do a lot of other things
[00:33:21] with automations, I think that's
[00:33:23] that's kind of like a really
[00:33:24] fascinating thing
[00:33:24] that Airtable does.
[00:33:26] And in doing so
[00:33:28] in finding these automations,
[00:33:30] I started to ask like more thought
[00:33:32] provoking questions and I was like,
[00:33:33] I wonder if we can do
[00:33:34] this that and the other
[00:33:36] and not knowing those answers
[00:33:38] kind of led me to the Airtable
[00:33:40] community which
[00:33:41] kind of dovetails nicely into
[00:33:43] the beginning part of our podcast.
[00:33:45] That was when I was like, man,
[00:33:46] there's like this guy
[00:33:47] named Scott who keeps like
[00:33:48] commenting the heck out of like forums
[00:33:50] and stuff like that, like seems like he
[00:33:52] knows what he's talking about,
[00:33:53] you know what I mean?
[00:33:54] Like a modicum of like
[00:33:55] intelligence and so
[00:33:56] that's when I like reached out
[00:33:57] to Scott and like Scott and I
[00:33:59] have been been working together
[00:34:01] ever since, but that's kind of my journey
[00:34:03] from,
[00:34:04] you know, data scientists,
[00:34:06] nicely packaged data
[00:34:07] to suddenly now you have to do
[00:34:09] it but Airtables kind of given me
[00:34:11] this this opportunity to do so in a
[00:34:14] really intuitive way.
[00:34:18] I love it, I love it.
[00:34:23] Yeah, and so, you know, I think
[00:34:25] I think one of the interesting
[00:34:27] things that
[00:34:28] we see and I'll just start,
[00:34:29] I'll talk about kind of
[00:34:31] what Scott and I are
[00:34:32] gonna like demo here for you
[00:34:35] is as companies like Airtable
[00:34:38] or Zapier or Make
[00:34:39] kind of democratize technological
[00:34:43] functionality, right?
[00:34:45] And technology is easier to use
[00:34:47] and it's more consumable by people.
[00:34:50] So too comes, I think the desire
[00:34:52] to do something with it, right?
[00:34:54] And that's kind of the essence
[00:34:56] of data science is like, okay,
[00:34:57] you've generated this exhaust
[00:34:59] now, let's do something with it.
[00:35:01] And so one of the key things
[00:35:03] I had thought about was, you know,
[00:35:06] we're working with a lot of people.
[00:35:09] So you know, elderly people
[00:35:11] who are receiving care
[00:35:12] we're working with care
[00:35:14] administrators. So these are people
[00:35:15] who are sending, you know nurses to your
[00:35:17] home, to your mother's home
[00:35:19] to care for your loved one.
[00:35:21] And all these people are kind of
[00:35:23] asking somewhat similar questions
[00:35:25] such as like,
[00:35:26] you know, hey, what did my dad
[00:35:29] do today? Or you know,
[00:35:30] did my dad or mother take
[00:35:32] her medication for the day
[00:35:34] etcetera etcetera?
[00:35:35] And these would not only be coming
[00:35:36] from the concerned loved ones,
[00:35:38] they're also coming
[00:35:39] from the business as well.
[00:35:40] And so we kind of had this idea
[00:35:42] where I said, you know, I don't want to,
[00:35:45] you know have death by paper cuts
[00:35:48] by way of like report requests
[00:35:50] all day because
[00:35:50] believe me, that would happen.
[00:35:53] And so I thought
[00:35:54] is there a way we can use all of
[00:35:56] these kind of applications
[00:35:59] and Airtable to kind of make a chat bot
[00:36:04] such that the user in this case
[00:36:07] it could be the loved one. It could be the
[00:36:10] business, it could be an R N
[00:36:12] it doesn't matter who
[00:36:14] the loved one could kind
[00:36:15] of like self service themselves
[00:36:18] with a really intuitive chatbot
[00:36:20] that had a whole bunch of web hooks on it,
[00:36:23] in which those web hooks would fire
[00:36:25] essentially queries to Airtable
[00:36:28] and extract data
[00:36:29] and send it via email wherever
[00:36:31] it needs to go.
[00:36:32] So that was the thought process
[00:36:35] is how can we
[00:36:36] take this really good data and
[00:36:38] kind of have it be self
[00:36:39] I mean kind of have it be like
[00:36:41] a self service kind of
[00:36:42] thing whereby, you know,
[00:36:44] like you can fend for yourself
[00:36:46] more or less and as
[00:36:47] opposed to just
[00:36:48] you asking me all the time for
[00:36:50] for data etcetera etcetera.
[00:36:52] So with that
[00:36:53] let me I'll just go ahead
[00:36:55] and share my screen down and I
[00:36:57] think you have to re share it.
[00:37:00] Yeah, I'll share my screen.
[00:37:02] Okay,
[00:37:06] let me let me move on.
[00:37:08] So this is our Base Showcase
[00:37:11] on chat messaging in Airtable.
[00:37:14] Share your screen.
[00:37:17] There you go. Okay,
[00:37:19] so this is a this is a client
[00:37:22] that we have and this is,
[00:37:25] you know, these are real people here
[00:37:27] and you'll notice that
[00:37:29] on this site here we
[00:37:30] we work with a company called chat bot
[00:37:33] and we named this particular bot
[00:37:36] in honor of Scott.
[00:37:38] And we even have the avatar,
[00:37:41] we kind of had to make it look
[00:37:43] like him as best as we could.
[00:37:46] Yeah, but you know let me just show you
[00:37:50] kind of let me take you through the
[00:37:54] the application first
[00:37:55] and then I'll kind of
[00:37:56] show you the back end of what had to
[00:37:57] happen. So here it's just
[00:37:59] it kind of works like it's you know,
[00:38:01] we wanted to make it intuitive
[00:38:02] where you're basically pressing
[00:38:03] buttons and so it
[00:38:04] says you know, hello staff
[00:38:05] please tell us essentially
[00:38:07] what it is you want to do,
[00:38:08] do you want to explore your clients,
[00:38:10] caretakers etcetera? So we'll just press
[00:38:12] one because we want to explore
[00:38:14] clients and then it says you know,
[00:38:16] okay let's explore your clients,
[00:38:18] press one if you, you know the person that
[00:38:20] you're interested in
[00:38:22] or two if you want us to list
[00:38:23] all of the clients that you
[00:38:24] have and in this case
[00:38:26] I'm gonna choose the one
[00:38:27] that I know we have and it says you know,
[00:38:29] go ahead and type in the client's name
[00:38:31] and you can also build and I'll talk
[00:38:33] about the chat bot app,
[00:38:34] you can also build kind of
[00:38:36] defensive coding here where
[00:38:37] like if they type in something bogus
[00:38:39] like you know, Brad Pitt you can be like
[00:38:40] hey that's not a real client.
[00:38:42] But you know here you
[00:38:44] just say you know this is
[00:38:46] this is a client's name
[00:38:48] When days do you want it?
[00:38:49] You can choose these different
[00:38:50] things and so if you
[00:38:51] look right, these are just date filters,
[00:38:53] they're just being very clever with
[00:38:54] date filters, but obviously
[00:38:56] the user doesn't know that.
[00:38:57] So I'll just say the
[00:38:58] last 30 days and it says great,
[00:39:00] we're going to generate a report,
[00:39:01] what email would you like this to do.
[00:39:04] So I'll put in my email address
[00:39:09] and then then it basically says,
[00:39:11] you know, we're on it
[00:39:12] and so behind the scenes,
[00:39:15] so here's my email
[00:39:16] and as you can see,
[00:39:18] there's the report for Paul Novak
[00:39:21] and you click it, it generates the C S. V.
[00:39:24] and here's all the things that
[00:39:26] Paul Novak has done
[00:39:27] the last 30 days, this particular client.
[00:39:30] And so behind the scenes,
[00:39:32] what we have here is
[00:39:33] this is an application called
[00:39:35] chatbot.com
[00:39:36] and this was my first
[00:39:38] kind of like chatbot
[00:39:39] so it's really inefficient
[00:39:41] and how it works.
[00:39:42] But you're you're basically seeing
[00:39:43] this diagram and this diagram
[00:39:45] is kind of like all the different
[00:39:47] steps and paths
[00:39:48] you can take.
[00:39:49] And I say it's really inefficient
[00:39:50] because I realized I could probably like
[00:39:52] dovetail things into other things,
[00:39:54] but I didn't really know
[00:39:55] what I was doing at
[00:39:56] first. And so this was kind of like
[00:39:58] my first foray with it, but as you can see
[00:40:00] the critical step is web hook
[00:40:02] right here. So I'll zoom in.
[00:40:05] So everything basically says,
[00:40:06] you know, you're starting with
[00:40:08] like a name,
[00:40:08] you can set up filters,
[00:40:10] you can set up defensive coding
[00:40:12] whereby people,
[00:40:12] you know, don't put in a bogus name.
[00:40:15] This is the time frame that you desired,
[00:40:17] you know, where are we sending this email?
[00:40:19] This checks that it's an email,
[00:40:20] an actual, you know,
[00:40:21] at and with the dot com or whatever.
[00:40:24] And then at the end
[00:40:25] we have a web hook here
[00:40:27] that fires
[00:40:28] and as you can see this web hook fires
[00:40:31] were sending it to Make.
[00:40:33] And Make's just a really good,
[00:40:36] really incredible partner
[00:40:39] of ours and this is
[00:40:40] our make application
[00:40:42] for this particular chat bot.
[00:40:44] It's huge because we have a
[00:40:45] lot of permutations that go on with it,
[00:40:47] right? We have a lot of different
[00:40:48] scenarios that you can do.
[00:40:50] I think it's got like
[00:40:51] 120 like modules and stuff like that.
[00:40:53] But every one of these light blue
[00:40:55] modules and I'll try and zoom in.
[00:40:58] I mean these are
[00:40:58] these are Airtable modules,
[00:41:00] right? So it's doing a search
[00:41:01] records action
[00:41:02] where we're basically filtering,
[00:41:04] if the record exists,
[00:41:05] if it doesn't exist,
[00:41:06] if it does exist,
[00:41:07] create that C S. V. That you saw in the
[00:41:09] open and then send the email.
[00:41:11] And if it doesn't exist,
[00:41:13] we need to send another email that says,
[00:41:14] hey, sorry, this doesn't exist.
[00:41:17] And so all these things are basically,
[00:41:19] you know, to go back to the flow,
[00:41:22] we have this chatbot here
[00:41:23] that is basically
[00:41:24] logging the path that the user
[00:41:28] wants using those numbers
[00:41:31] like 1122 and based on
[00:41:33] that I guess code we're decoding
[00:41:35] that path in the context
[00:41:38] of these automations here
[00:41:40] and then it's firing the emails
[00:41:43] with the CSVs over to
[00:41:45] kind of whoever
[00:41:46] needs to consume this data.
[00:41:47] And so that way they
[00:41:49] can really kind of fend for
[00:41:50] themselves.
[00:41:53] It's gotta be one of the most
[00:41:57] complex Make maps we've seen.
[00:42:01] Yeah, well like I said,
[00:42:02] it was, it was like my first
[00:42:03] go around with it.
[00:42:04] So it was terribly inefficient
[00:42:05] I think the first time
[00:42:06] I'm sure there's like a
[00:42:07] lot more we can do with it.
[00:42:08] But you know,
[00:42:09] what it what it does do is it really
[00:42:12] kind of again, it relieves the,
[00:42:14] I wouldn't call it the burden,
[00:42:15] but it just, it lets people consume
[00:42:17] the data on their time
[00:42:19] when they want to do
[00:42:20] it. So if someone's working
[00:42:22] at like 11 PM and I'm not there,
[00:42:23] they can just pull up this chat bots
[00:42:25] and they can say, hey, I want to look at,
[00:42:27] you know, all the things
[00:42:28] that this particular nurse has done
[00:42:30] and whether and we even have it
[00:42:32] like if it's a specific nurse
[00:42:33] and a specific
[00:42:34] client or just everything
[00:42:35] that this nurse has done
[00:42:37] in the last whatever data
[00:42:38] frame you want
[00:42:39] because one of the things
[00:42:40] I've noticed is just like with Airtable
[00:42:43] in the data science world,
[00:42:44] there's all these other applications
[00:42:47] that are making it
[00:42:48] really easy to you know,
[00:42:49] gleam insight from your data
[00:42:51] to visualize it
[00:42:52] and you know that that should be
[00:42:53] shared and and I'm glad
[00:42:55] it's being more democratized
[00:42:56] and so you know again if
[00:42:57] you're working at 10 30 at night
[00:42:59] for whatever reason
[00:43:00] and you're on this chat bot
[00:43:01] and you download all this data,
[00:43:03] you can now go do something
[00:43:05] with it using all
[00:43:06] these other tools at your
[00:43:08] at your leisure.
[00:43:09] And so I think it's a really nice way
[00:43:10] of
[00:43:12] essentially like exposing your base
[00:43:15] but without like giving someone you know
[00:43:17] the keys to your base of Airtable,
[00:43:19] you're letting them
[00:43:21] kind of like explore it.
[00:43:22] And quite frankly,
[00:43:23] you know the number one
[00:43:25] business intelligence
[00:43:27] application on the planet is
[00:43:28] Microsoft Excel.
[00:43:29] And that's just what people know
[00:43:31] and use and whether
[00:43:32] that's good or bad, I'm not gonna debate.
[00:43:34] But people are familiar with that
[00:43:36] with that medium
[00:43:37] of kind of looking at data in
[00:43:39] a very tabular format
[00:43:41] and this kind of gives it
[00:43:43] to them in kind of how
[00:43:44] they want to do it without
[00:43:45] kind of like, you know like
[00:43:47] this is the formula field in the
[00:43:48] table and you can adjust it
[00:43:50] like it's just kind of more like
[00:43:51] its consumer ready
[00:43:52] and it's ready for you
[00:43:53] to do something with.
[00:43:56] Alex. It's so awesome
[00:43:57] what you've done. It's incredible. Very,
[00:44:01] that's why we named it the
[00:44:04] Scott bot came from you man,
[00:44:06] I'm so honored.
[00:44:07] I'm so honored that there's a real bot a
[00:44:09] working bot out in the world
[00:44:11] named after me.
[00:44:13] There you go man, it's the first time,
[00:44:15] yeah, Alex has really been
[00:44:17] pushing Airtable
[00:44:19] to the extremes with Make when,
[00:44:21] when Alex first came to me,
[00:44:23] he was using Zapier
[00:44:24] and you actually couldn't do
[00:44:26] the things that you wanted to do in Zapier
[00:44:28] because you with some of the other
[00:44:29] things that you didn't show today,
[00:44:32] you're doing like aggregations and a lot
[00:44:34] of like very heavy logic
[00:44:36] that we that you that you
[00:44:38] were able to solve once you
[00:44:39] switched over to Make.
[00:44:41] Yeah, I mean, so you know,
[00:44:43] I didn't know about Make quite frankly,
[00:44:45] right? So the first thing
[00:44:47] I knew about was kind of
[00:44:49] Zapier and you know,
[00:44:49] not knocking them.
[00:44:51] But what, when I approached Scott, I said,
[00:44:53] you know, here's kind of what
[00:44:54] I'm thinking of how to do. And I kind of,
[00:44:56] you know, approached him
[00:44:58] and I said I'm not able to do
[00:45:00] that at least at least to my knowledge
[00:45:02] and when we talk about what that is.
[00:45:05] I know that's like really broad,
[00:45:07] but one of the key things
[00:45:08] that we do at least
[00:45:09] in health care that's very important
[00:45:11] is we need to be able to look back,
[00:45:12] right? It's and again,
[00:45:13] this is probably the data scientists
[00:45:15] in me that's getting
[00:45:16] all like that. But we need to be able
[00:45:18] to say, you know, if someone,
[00:45:19] let's say your mother,
[00:45:20] your father is not receiving
[00:45:22] adequate care,
[00:45:23] we can't just throw our arms up
[00:45:25] and say, well my dad's
[00:45:26] not receiving care,
[00:45:27] What we need to do
[00:45:28] is we need to be able to
[00:45:29] look back in time and say,
[00:45:30] well why is your father
[00:45:32] not receiving this care?
[00:45:34] So let's look back end steps.
[00:45:36] And those steps could be
[00:45:38] defined as events,
[00:45:39] days, doesn't really matter to me how
[00:45:41] you define the steps back,
[00:45:43] but we need to be able to do a
[00:45:45] look back and kind of
[00:45:46] aggregate data from a look back
[00:45:48] point of view
[00:45:48] and that's kind of where Make
[00:45:50] really that's where Scott opened
[00:45:52] my eyes to Make and you know,
[00:45:55] like we're very happy enterprise,
[00:45:58] Make customers. So thank you again Scott.
[00:46:01] I love it, you're welcome,
[00:46:02] thank you. I love going out.
[00:46:04] I love doing all these these
[00:46:05] these challenging projects
[00:46:07] with you
[00:46:07] which are so successful and are helping
[00:46:09] people in a real way.
[00:46:11] Like, for example,
[00:46:12] Alex has this whole text messaging
[00:46:14] system that he's set up in.
[00:46:16] So it goes with your slide Dan,
[00:46:17] that said text
[00:46:18] messaging
[00:46:19] system set up that if two
[00:46:22] negative events happen in a row
[00:46:25] to a client, like for example,
[00:46:27] somebody doesn't take
[00:46:29] their medication twice in a
[00:46:31] row in a day,
[00:46:32] then a text message
[00:46:33] will be automatically
[00:46:35] sent to the caregiver to
[00:46:36] let them know that that happened
[00:46:38] and that's because
[00:46:39] the nurses in the field are
[00:46:40] actually they have QR codes
[00:46:43] that they can scan to let,
[00:46:45] which then gives them a
[00:46:47] survey to fill out a brief survey
[00:46:48] where they can say what happened with this
[00:46:51] with this client.
[00:46:53] Yeah so I mean just briefly
[00:46:54] so thank you Scott for launching into it.
[00:46:57] But you know one of the key things
[00:46:59] that we found just we have a we have an
[00:47:01] entire like clinician board
[00:47:03] of directors that helps us
[00:47:05] with and just just so
[00:47:06] that we all know everyone
[00:47:07] does better when you receive care at home.
[00:47:10] It's actually never a good thing
[00:47:11] when you land in the hospital,
[00:47:12] whether you're young or old
[00:47:14] it doesn't matter.
[00:47:15] You want to kind of avoid a
[00:47:16] hospitalization.
[00:47:17] And so what we found is
[00:47:19] for elderly people,
[00:47:20] they do better when they receive
[00:47:21] care at home.
[00:47:22] That's obviously true for everybody.
[00:47:24] But the key that the key
[00:47:25] thing that I think the pandemic
[00:47:27] really did is it really
[00:47:28] burned out a lot of
[00:47:28] workers, especially in health care
[00:47:30] whether you're an RN you're a caregiver,
[00:47:32] it doesn't really matter.
[00:47:34] That kind of have been really burned out.
[00:47:35] And so
[00:47:37] because it's kind of been an
[00:47:39] unfortunate revolving door
[00:47:40] of people who are
[00:47:41] caring for other people.
[00:47:43] The idea is could we use data
[00:47:45] also like Scott said
[00:47:47] using aggregations to say
[00:47:49] let's say Alex was caring for Alli today
[00:47:52] but for whatever reason I
[00:47:54] I can't care for you tomorrow
[00:47:55] and Scott needs to come
[00:47:57] in and care for Alli now,
[00:47:59] what does Scott need to know about Alli?
[00:48:02] So that Scott is like halfway
[00:48:04] prepared for like caring for Alli
[00:48:06] so if we know
[00:48:07] that
[00:48:08] you know hey like Alli like has like
[00:48:10] a bum shoulder from like Monday
[00:48:12] now we know
[00:48:12] like okay well like that
[00:48:14] that shoulder there
[00:48:15] we can also determine like how you
[00:48:17] know like what are the best times
[00:48:19] to give Alli her medication
[00:48:21] so that she doesn't
[00:48:21] miss her medication right?
[00:48:23] Because if you miss enough of it,
[00:48:24] you land in hospital
[00:48:25] that's obviously bad for everybody.
[00:48:27] And so all these types
[00:48:28] of really complicated logical paths
[00:48:32] were made possible you know using
[00:48:36] make but also using Airtable
[00:48:37] so Airtable's you know holding
[00:48:39] this data and we're
[00:48:39] querying it all the time
[00:48:42] and then we're using text messages
[00:48:44] to communicate because you know that's
[00:48:46] just I mean everyone,
[00:48:47] everyone's connected
[00:48:48] and you know we're all just kind of
[00:48:49] like see it and this but
[00:48:51] but as I was saying if it's a revolving
[00:48:54] door, the data that knowledge
[00:48:56] leaves with that person
[00:48:58] and now we can kind of
[00:48:59] take that knowledge
[00:49:00] and we can pass it to the next caregiver
[00:49:02] so they can do
[00:49:03] their job better for the next person.
[00:49:06] That's awesome,
[00:49:08] That really showcases basically
[00:49:10] using Airtable as a knowledge repository
[00:49:14] and knowledge base
[00:49:16] and how to query data out of it. So
[00:49:19] very cool stuff Scott I believe
[00:49:22] you're gonna expand on that same concept.
[00:49:25] You want to share your screen,
[00:49:28] I will share my screen.
[00:49:31] Okay.
[00:49:35] Oops.
[00:49:37] Okay cool perfect.
[00:49:39] So yeah so Alex really
[00:49:42] really inspired me to dive more
[00:49:45] into chat bot because
[00:49:46] because Alex was the first client
[00:49:49] that I had worked with
[00:49:50] that actually
[00:49:51] wanted to create a chatbot
[00:49:53] and Alex dived in and create it.
[00:49:55] And I was so
[00:49:55] inspired by it,
[00:49:56] I started playing around
[00:49:58] with chatbots to see what other things
[00:50:00] can we do with chatbots
[00:50:02] and as you can imagine
[00:50:04] what you can do is you can
[00:50:05] actually have the chatbot
[00:50:08] communicate back with the person
[00:50:11] about information
[00:50:13] that it finds in Airtable.
[00:50:15] So in Alex's example
[00:50:16] you went through the whole chain
[00:50:19] and then at the end
[00:50:20] the chatbot emailed you
[00:50:22] a customized C. S. V. File.
[00:50:23] And in this demo I'm gonna
[00:50:25] show you the chatbot will actually respond
[00:50:28] in the chat with the information
[00:50:30] that you need.
[00:50:31] So check this out what I have here
[00:50:34] is a simple database here.
[00:50:36] Some customers
[00:50:37] there's a first name, a last name,
[00:50:39] the last payment we received from them
[00:50:42] and the last payment date that they made
[00:50:44] and then here in the chat bot
[00:50:47] I've got a very simple scenario
[00:50:50] that I set up here
[00:50:51] and let's just run through it
[00:50:53] and I will show you
[00:50:55] what happens here, you can
[00:50:57] see this corner of my screen right? Okay,
[00:51:00] alright, so oops, that's
[00:51:03] that's actually their chat bot
[00:51:06] for chatbot.com.
[00:51:08] I meant to go up here to test my bot,
[00:51:10] so I'm gonna go up here to test my bot and
[00:51:12] it says welcome to our customer
[00:51:14] information chat bot,
[00:51:15] let's try to find you in
[00:51:16] our system. What is your email address?
[00:51:18] So if we go back to Airtable here,
[00:51:21] I have three email addresses in here,
[00:51:23] so I'm just gonna choose [email protected].
[00:51:26] So I'm gonna type in here in
[00:51:28] the chat,
[00:51:29] I'm gonna say jane at example dot com.
[00:51:31] And then I hit return and the
[00:51:33] chat about comes back
[00:51:35] and says hello Jane.
[00:51:37] So it actually from the email address
[00:51:40] it actually pulled in the first name
[00:51:42] from right here, so it says hello Jane,
[00:51:43] would you like to know
[00:51:45] your recent payment information?
[00:51:47] So I'm gonna say yes.
[00:51:48] And then the chatbot thinks
[00:51:49] for a moment
[00:51:50] and it comes back and says your last
[00:51:52] payment was $250
[00:51:53] and it was received on 11 1 22.
[00:51:56] And if we come back in the Airtable,
[00:51:58] we see that here's
[00:51:59] the information right there
[00:52:01] and again like
[00:52:03] Alex was showing you earlier,
[00:52:05] this is all due to placing
[00:52:08] web hooks within your chatbots scenario,
[00:52:11] so you know, you set these,
[00:52:14] you know, this whole path here.
[00:52:15] And Alex showed you
[00:52:16] a perfect example of a very
[00:52:17] complex path.
[00:52:18] And what you can do is
[00:52:20] you place these little web hooks along the
[00:52:22] way
[00:52:23] and then what you can do is
[00:52:26] you can set up a scenario
[00:52:28] in Make here where after
[00:52:30] you receive the web hook from chatbots,
[00:52:33] so this right here is how you received
[00:52:35] the information from chatbots
[00:52:37] with whatever the person typed in
[00:52:40] and then it does something in Airtable.
[00:52:42] So in this case it's searching for the
[00:52:44] records
[00:52:44] and then here is the key,
[00:52:47] the key thing here is that
[00:52:49] it will respond to chat bot
[00:52:51] with information that's taken
[00:52:53] from Airtable. So for example,
[00:52:55] if I go into this module here,
[00:52:58] we can see that
[00:52:59] I'm actually sending back to
[00:53:01] chatbots. So after it searches
[00:53:03] the records in Airtable
[00:53:04] and it finds a matching person,
[00:53:07] a matching customer,
[00:53:08] it'll actually send back to
[00:53:10] chat about the I. D.
[00:53:12] That's the record I. D.
[00:53:13] In Airtable. The first name and
[00:53:15] the last name.
[00:53:16] Now we're actually not using
[00:53:19] all three of those right away
[00:53:20] because if you remember
[00:53:22] when the chatbot actually said hello Jane,
[00:53:25] it was only using the first name.
[00:53:27] However one thing that's super super cool
[00:53:29] about chat bot
[00:53:31] is that it actually remembers
[00:53:33] any information
[00:53:35] that's sent to it throughout.
[00:53:37] Oops, where is it?
[00:53:38] It's over here,
[00:53:39] it remembers any information
[00:53:40] that's sent to
[00:53:41] it throughout the entire path.
[00:53:43] So it'll remember through
[00:53:45] this entire process the
[00:53:47] email address that somebody typed up.
[00:53:49] And it will remember through the entire
[00:53:51] process, it will remember
[00:53:53] the record I. D. Number
[00:53:55] the first name and the last
[00:53:57] name.
[00:53:57] And the reason that that it's important
[00:53:59] that it remembers all that is because
[00:54:01] when it comes to the second web hook
[00:54:04] and that was the one where it said would
[00:54:06] you like to receive
[00:54:08] your payment information?
[00:54:09] Yes or no. Then what it will do is
[00:54:11] oh this is actually where it asked
[00:54:13] the question and then when it goes out to
[00:54:15] Make I've got another
[00:54:18] scenario set up here
[00:54:20] and this time it will actually
[00:54:23] throw in all the information
[00:54:25] that it has received
[00:54:27] so far in the scenario.
[00:54:29] So it'll take all the information
[00:54:32] that is collected so far,
[00:54:34] and it will send it
[00:54:35] into the Make scenario and then
[00:54:38] we have all the information
[00:54:40] at our fingertips.
[00:54:41] So in this particular case
[00:54:43] we only needed the record I. D.
[00:54:45] So we are immediately
[00:54:46] know which record I. D. To look up.
[00:54:48] So you can see here we're just pulling in
[00:54:50] the I. D. This is all the information that
[00:54:55] that chatbot will send in to Make.
[00:54:58] And down here under the attributes the
[00:55:01] attributes, it will give you a list of all
[00:55:03] the information that is collected
[00:55:05] along the path.
[00:55:06] And then you can use it
[00:55:08] any way you want in Airtable.
[00:55:09] And then once again
[00:55:11] you create another web hook response
[00:55:14] and I formatted the date here,
[00:55:16] here's the payment received
[00:55:18] and you send it back
[00:55:19] into chatbots. So it's really
[00:55:21] really powerful.
[00:55:22] It's very very cool what you can
[00:55:25] do with chatbot and
[00:55:28] Alex is the one that inspired me
[00:55:30] now, I want to do chatbots for everyone.
[00:55:34] Yeah, that becomes your interface,
[00:55:37] your Ui for Airtable interacting with it.
[00:55:39] Exactly. Yeah, exactly.
[00:55:41] And like I was saying
[00:55:43] there's security measures
[00:55:45] you can put in place,
[00:55:46] you know, if you don't
[00:55:46] want everyone to have access to
[00:55:47] everything, you know,
[00:55:48] have them type in a pin code,
[00:55:50] you know with their email
[00:55:51] address
[00:55:56] I mean like exactly what Scott did right?
[00:55:58] Like say you misspelled Jane and you
[00:56:00] put in, you know Jan
[00:56:02] you it'll go in there
[00:56:04] and you can say like,
[00:56:06] you know, hey that's not
[00:56:07] like a valid response
[00:56:08] and it'll do like that kind
[00:56:10] of like defensive kind of checking
[00:56:12] for you and it also has like synonyms,
[00:56:14] so like all the different permutations
[00:56:17] of saying yes and no it has and so like,
[00:56:19] you know, if you ask it like a yes
[00:56:21] or no question and you know,
[00:56:23] you respond with like,
[00:56:24] you know, yep, Y E P.
[00:56:26] It'll go like, yep that's a yes
[00:56:27] and then it will route you
[00:56:29] like correctly. And so it's not like
[00:56:31] all these really cool things
[00:56:32] that are built
[00:56:33] into it and what I love about
[00:56:35] when you test it as you saw with Scott,
[00:56:38] you get this nice visual ui
[00:56:40] that lets you see where
[00:56:41] you are exactly on the path
[00:56:43] so that you know, you can,
[00:56:44] you can diagnose if,
[00:56:45] if a step is not working as it
[00:56:47] should.
[00:56:49] Very cool.
[00:56:50] I think a lot of people are starting
[00:56:54] to question how can I use the
[00:56:56] chatbot now
[00:56:57] you just have to name them
[00:57:00] all the Scott bot. I love it,
[00:57:03] I love it. Thank you Alex.
[00:57:06] Awesome, cool, let's move on,
[00:57:08] let's go. And while you're getting
[00:57:11] your next demo ready Scott,
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[00:57:45] Scott's going to give us
[00:57:48] a cool airtable hack.
[00:57:50] Yes, yes, this is something that
[00:57:53] affected one of my clients the other day.
[00:57:57] Let me share my screen again here
[00:58:01] and okay, and they are a
[00:58:05] commercial real estate company
[00:58:09] and they had a very
[00:58:12] complex database where they were
[00:58:15] keeping track of the square footage that
[00:58:17] they're dealing with for all their
[00:58:19] different commercial properties.
[00:58:20] And what we realized was that Airtable
[00:58:25] doesn't actually give you the commas in
[00:58:29] your numbers and it's something
[00:58:31] that I've always known
[00:58:32] but I never really really
[00:58:33] noticed it until we were dealing
[00:58:34] with like these really large numbers.
[00:58:36] And that's especially it's especially
[00:58:38] confusing when you're looking at these
[00:58:40] numbers down here.
[00:58:41] I mean it's confusing to start with
[00:58:42] when you're looking at
[00:58:43] these numbers down there but then it's
[00:58:44] especially confusing when
[00:58:46] you're looking at sums up here
[00:58:48] because at first you're
[00:58:49] like wait is this 202,004?
[00:58:50] And then you realize oh wait a second,
[00:58:53] that's actually 2,024,000.
[00:58:55] You know very very difficult
[00:58:57] because if you go to the
[00:58:59] number field here there's
[00:59:01] there's no formatting that
[00:59:03] allows you to show commas.
[00:59:05] And then I figured out a quick
[00:59:08] little trick, a little hack
[00:59:10] which is that the
[00:59:12] currency field actually shows
[00:59:15] commas.
[00:59:16] And so look how much easier this looks.
[00:59:19] And the only real trick here
[00:59:21] is instead of using a number field
[00:59:23] you use a
[00:59:23] currency field. But what you do is
[00:59:26] you remove the currency symbol.
[00:59:28] So normally your currency field
[00:59:29] would look like something like this.
[00:59:31] But if you remove the dollar sign.
[00:59:34] Oh and by the way, change your precision
[00:59:37] to not be
[00:59:39] with decimals just make it an imager here
[00:59:41] then
[00:59:42] what you have is a field
[00:59:45] that looks just like a number field
[00:59:48] but it has commas
[00:59:49] instead
[00:59:51] and this is really cool in interfaces
[00:59:53] where this really comes in handy.
[00:59:54] So because we were creating an interface,
[00:59:57] look at the difference between these
[01:00:00] two
[01:00:01] on the left is without the commas
[01:00:03] on the right is with the commas
[01:00:05] and the
[01:00:06] and so you can see how much
[01:00:07] this is so much more confusing
[01:00:09] to read down the left
[01:00:10] side of this versus the left side of this.
[01:00:13] And if you hover over like the little
[01:00:15] pie charts here there's no commas
[01:00:17] in the values and then over here there are
[01:00:20] commas in the values.
[01:00:22] So same thing with this,
[01:00:24] if you hover over this
[01:00:25] you've got the commas and if you
[01:00:27] ever hover over this
[01:00:28] you do not have the commas.
[01:00:30] The only thing that's weird is
[01:00:31] that Airtable removes
[01:00:33] the commas for its legend here.
[01:00:36] I we might have to
[01:00:37] email Airtable about that.
[01:00:39] They may not even know about that.
[01:00:41] So that's the only weird thing.
[01:00:43] And then the other sad news
[01:00:44] is that this will
[01:00:45] not work for our friends in Europe
[01:00:47] or other countries. This will only work in
[01:00:50] the US and Canada because we use commas as
[01:00:53] thousands separators and in many
[01:00:56] other countries, most other countries they
[01:00:58] actually use periods instead
[01:01:01] and Airtable is only set
[01:01:03] to show commas instead of
[01:01:05] periods. But if you're in the US
[01:01:07] or Canada
[01:01:08] this will work very well for you.
[01:01:09] And so there you go.
[01:01:11] Just a nice little tip.
[01:01:13] A little trick on how to make your
[01:01:16] numbers more readable
[01:01:17] across the board in Airtable
[01:01:21] moment. Yeah, it's a question I get
[01:01:24] very very often
[01:01:25] like more often than I would
[01:01:27] think is can I put commas
[01:01:29] in the chart on the side?
[01:01:31] Like they don't really care
[01:01:33] about the numbers in the base
[01:01:34] but like when they're reading the chart,
[01:01:36] the bar charts and the interfaces
[01:01:37] people want to see those
[01:01:39] commas and that is
[01:01:39] something I've never thought of.
[01:01:41] I love that Scott. Thank you.
[01:01:42] I love it. I'm so happy
[01:01:44] I was able to give you
[01:01:45] an a ha moment today.
[01:01:46] That's great.
[01:01:47] That's awesome. Yeah
[01:01:48] it makes it makes a world of difference
[01:01:51] but we have to put
[01:01:52] pressure on Airtable too.
[01:01:54] Give up the European people
[01:01:56] the same thing
[01:01:57] and fix those little legends on the
[01:01:58] side and then we're
[01:02:00] then we're golden
[01:02:02] or just added to the number field or that
[01:02:05] you know, they can do it
[01:02:07] because they do it
[01:02:08] with the currency field.
[01:02:10] We do. And I think
[01:02:11] if I recall correctly is
[01:02:12] there the option to remove the
[01:02:14] commas in the currency field formatting?
[01:02:16] I don't let me check real quick.
[01:02:18] I don't think that's an option.
[01:02:20] I didn't see that.
[01:02:21] So that's not an option isn't
[01:02:22] that interesting. So you have the
[01:02:23] option to add it in number fields
[01:02:25] and you have no option to remove it in
[01:02:27] currency fields interesting.
[01:02:30] I really also to that
[01:02:33] end want a to currency
[01:02:37] or a currency format formula
[01:02:39] that would be amazing,
[01:02:40] would probably return as a
[01:02:41] string. So you wouldn't be able to
[01:02:43] like make any fun bar charts out of it.
[01:02:45] But that would also be helpful
[01:02:47] for our friends in Europe.
[01:02:49] Yeah, absolutely, totally agree.
[01:02:51] And by the way, for
[01:02:53] for people in the US you
[01:02:54] could actually create a formula field
[01:02:57] that you hide from the users and and
[01:02:59] formatted as currency
[01:03:00] and do the same trick
[01:03:02] that I showed you and that would be
[01:03:04] if you don't like the dollar sign
[01:03:06] showing up in the toolbar,
[01:03:07] you know up at the top because
[01:03:09] that might confuse people
[01:03:10] with my typing in
[01:03:10] currency here still wouldn't
[01:03:13] work for Europe,
[01:03:14] but it would work for us here.
[01:03:16] Yeah, that's great. Yeah and
[01:03:19] Kuovonne hasn't already
[01:03:20] made formulas I think
[01:03:23] a way to get that
[01:03:25] currency converter formula,
[01:03:28] the one that returns a string. But yeah,
[01:03:33] very cool, Alli, you're gonna modify
[01:03:36] all of us to have you on.
[01:03:39] Yeah, it's good to be here.
[01:03:40] Thank you so much.
[01:03:42] Yeah, thank you so much for
[01:03:45] showing your it's awesome
[01:03:47] to life scenarios of how
[01:03:48] people use it in the real world
[01:03:50] and for real business use cases.
[01:03:52] So thank you Scott
[01:03:53] Thanks for bringing Alex on
[01:03:55] and for showcasing your stuff as
[01:03:56] well. Always good to have you.
[01:03:59] So that concludes today.
[01:04:02] We'll be back next week
[01:04:05] with our final episode for the season.
[01:04:07] So join us next Tuesday 11 a.m. Eastern.
[01:04:09] Thanks for sharing what you BuiltOnAir.
[01:04:12] Take care everyone.